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Re: "things that cannot possibly be true" Posted by essay - November 18, 2002 at 2:46:14am 1024x768x32 - Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90) In Reply to: Re: "things that cannot possibly be true" Posted by caf - November 18, 2002 at 1:46:49am:
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Well, caf, you are either up very late or up very early. Better get some sleep. It's a grey, dreary morning here in North Rhine-Westphalia. Hope your Monday morning will be better, weatherwise. I will gladly provide at least a partial list of the NT allusions to the OT books written too late to 'make the cut' for the Hebrew canon. Please give me a day or two to look them up. You are keerect that, 'Many of the New Testament quotations of the Old Testament do not follow the Septuagint', but most do. You are re-writing history, however, by referring to 'the non-Biblical books that were canonized by the Catholic church in the 16th century in reaction against protestantism'. These books, as far as I know, were included in ALL Christian bibles until post-Reformation times. Even after being separated into a 'second canon' (which is how the Catholic Church continues to refer to them) by Jerome, they were considered an integral part of pre-Christian scripture. Jerome merely acknowledged their late authorship and hence absence from the (relatively) newly-closed Hebrew canon. The Catholic Church, I believe, formalized their canonicity, which was never previously in doubt (by Christians), in response to the Reformation - I would call it re-affirmation rather than 'reaction'. In the Eastern Orthodox churches, their canonicity has, as far as I konw, never been questioned. I might add, in this connection, that Luther had no problem with these books, regarding them rather highly, but agreeing with Jerome that they should be separated. I think that you are, with all due respect, doing me an injustice by implying that I said that the Anchor Bible was 'not the work of God'. I did not say that, I said that the AB commentary, which as you know is completely separated from the Biblcal text, is clearly the work of the human scholars involved. That their superior translation was guided by the Holy Spirit I do not doubt. I will leave to each reader to decide whether this guidance was by direct inspiration or proceeds from the creation of the translators 'in God's image', that is, with an intellect. Their scholarly credentials are certainly beyond reproach. I will not forget to post the list of NT allusions to the 'second canon' later in the week.
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