: Yahweh, the Only True G_d, would never have allowed The True
: Messiah to be born on or near the December 25th birthday period of the
: pagan Sun gods; during the time in which virgins were sacrificed, murder
: was commonplace, and orgies the norm. This would be an entirely
: unacceptable association of Good and evil.

Do you know that in the Hebrew Bible God's name was always spelled out just like every other word? For that "G_d" form to make any sense the whole sentence should be "Y_hw_h, th_ _nl_ Tr__ G_d ..." The Hebrew alphabet didn't have any vowels, which is why the Hebrew Bible didn't put vowels in God's name, or any other word. It is a strange modern affectation, apparently some superstition.

While most to the facts about dates and festivals in the posts above are in order, the conclusions don't necessarily follow, especially the final conclusion quoted above. The article linked in my original post on this subject acknowledges the presumption that the date for Christmas was borrowed from pagans. The generally accepted presumption may be true, but the evidence is not conclusive, especially since the presumption assumes that the motives of people long dead can be guessed at with finality. Pagan influences on various non-Biblical holidays that have been called Christian are evident enough, but the actual historical motives of those who started the traditions may not be so simple or so obvious.

It is odd to assert that God would not allow His son to be born at a time when evil pagan rituals were occurring. Does God then allow people to set his agenda, or does He determine the times and seasons? There is no doubt that the Jewish Passover and consequently the crucifixion and resurrection took place in the same time frame as pagan spring festivals. The sabbatarian web site you link to has an article on Easter pointing out the name and calendar link between Easter and Ishtar. God did not design an Easter celebration, but He also didn't move His calendar around for the most significant redemption events in both testaments to avoid pagan holidays.

I offer no defense of the religious celebration of Christmas or Easter or any other supposedly Christian holiday. They are not a part of New Testament Christianity, rather they are the product of human traditions. It is quite a leap from that fact to the sort of misinformation presented on the sabbatarian link provided.