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Re: It has been awhile. Posted by caf - July 26, 2002 at 9:56:35am 1280x1024x32 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020314 Netscape6/6.2.2 In Reply to: Re: It has been awhile. Posted by Mike Babb - July 26, 2002 at 12:16:15am:
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Let's not get too distracted by semantic avoidance of the question. Other messages have cited scriptures that connect faith with works ("acts" if you will), here is another: 2 Thess 1:11 With this in mind, we constantly pray for you, that our God may count you worthy of his calling, and that by his power he may fulfill every good purpose of yours and every act prompted by your faith. NIV As has been previously mentioned, faith produces works, or else it is dead and useless. Jesus said very plainly that thoughts and words alone were not sufficient to please God, but rather doing the will of God. And again, Jesus said that loving him means obeying his commands. Conversely, not obeying his commands means not loving him. Paul calls baptism a burial (Romans 6:1-4). When a corpse is buried, what work has it done? Paul refers to emergence from the water as a resurrection. No man besides Jesus has the power to raise himself. Only God's power can raise a person from the dead. Buried and raised, what work has the dead man done? But without the process, in which God works, there is only death and rotteness. Jesus calls baptism a new birth (John 3:1-8, 1 Peter 1:3, Titus 3:5). When a child is born we say that the mother has "labored." The child has been through and ordeal, but what work has he done? The mother, the father, the doctor, the midwife, others may work when the baby is born, but the baby isn't working. Salvation calls for obedience motivated by faith, and baptism is part of obedience. But the work is done by others, primarily by God, and not by the dead sinner, not by the reborn child of God. Notice when Peter talks about Noah and baptism, he doesn't refer to Noah being saved by building the ark, he refers to Noah being saved by what God did, by the waters of the flood, just as Christians are now saved by the waters of baptism. For Noah, there was more at stake than drowing. For us there is more at stake than getting wet. |
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